Category Archive: Subutex

Oct 29

What Does Subutex Look Like?

Subutex – What Does It Look Like?

If you are wondering, What Does Subutex Look Like than you’ve come to the right place. But before you take a look at what Subutex looks like be sure that you are not mistaken and looking at Suboxone which is a very different, yet similar drug.

Below are images of Subutex in label, box and pill form. Please do not rely on these for medical reasons, these images are supplied for entertainment purposes only. Always verify drugs with your pharmacist before taking them. So now you know what Subutex looks like and if you continue you’ll learn the differences between Subutex and Suboxone

What Does Subutex Look Like – Label Form

These are the pharmacy labels for Subutex 2mg and Subutex 8mg respectively.

What Subutex Looks Like - Sublingual Tablet Label 2mg

What Subutex Looks Like – Sublingual Tablet Label 2mg

What Subutex Looks Like - Sublingual Tablet Label

What Subutex Looks Like – Sublingual Tablet Label – 8mg




What Does Subutex Look Like – Box Form

This is what Subutex Boxes look like in 2mg and 8mg doses.

What Subutex Looks Like With Box

What Subutex Looks Like With Box

What Does Subutex Look Like – Pill Form

This is what Subutex Pills look like in 2mg and 8mg doses.

What Subutex Looks Like In Pill Form

What Subutex Looks Like In Pill Form


Drug Safety Information – Subutex is NOT Suboxone

Remember to read the critical facts about Subutex and Suboxone so that you do not mistake the two by accident. If you were to take Suboxone by mistake in place of Subutex than you could trigger a precipitated withdrawal syndrome which is very uncomfortable and possibly dangerous.

What Does Subutex Look Like – Pharmacy Bottle Form

This is what Subutex Bottles look like in 8mg doses. This is how the pill is received in the pharmacy.

What Does Subutex Look Like in the bottle

What Does Subutex Look Like in the bottle

Critical Facts About Subutex and Subuxone

  • Subutex & Suboxone contain the active ingredient of buprenorphine hydrochloride.
  • Subutex & Suboxone are medications used for the treatment of opiate addiction or opiate dependence.
  • Suboxone contains a second ingredient Naloxone which is used to prevent abuse.
  • Suboxone will be chosen by doctors over Subutex because it is less likely to be abused.


Why Were Subutex and Subuxone Both Approved For Opiate Dependence?

This is a common question. Subutex was the first version of the buprenorphine based treatment for opiate dependence. Suboxone came later and with an additional drug to prevent abuse. It is unlikely you will ever be prescribed Subutex (Buprenorphine without Naloxone).

Subutex is different than Methadone also as Methadone treatment usually requires you to receive medicine daily at a clinic. Subutex allows you to take your medicine home!

Was this helpful to you in determining what Subutex looks like?

I hope that this was helpful and welcome any feedback positive or negative simply leave a comment. I appreciate comments and you can leave them anonymously.

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Jul 25

Buprenex, Buprenorphine Started As Schedule V Narcotic in USA, 1985

Buprenorphine Drug Scheduling Timeline

Buprenorphine was first marketed in America in 1985, it was then scheduled by the FDA as a Schedule V narcotic. The only available product in the United States at that time was a very low-dose formulation intended for injection.

It was sold under the brand name Buprenex®. The FDA said that diversion, abuse & trafficking was occurring in Europe and other parts of the world. Considering the strength of Buprenorphine, it doesn’t surprise me that it was misused and/or trafficked.

Anyone who has attempted to stop taking Buprenorphine (aka Suboxone) knows how difficult it can be, sometimes more difficult than quitting other addictive opiates. If you are trying to taper from an addictive opiate or suboxone, you can check out the suboxone taper calculator on this site, or check out the new one on

DEA Scheduling of Buprenophine


Subutex and Suboxone were approved by the FDA in 2002 as schedule III Narcotic

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved two buprenorphine products (Suboxone® and Subutex®) for the treatment of opioid addiction.


Both products are high dose (2 mg and 8 mg) sublingual (under the
tongue) tablets:

  • Subutex® is a single entity buprenorphine product
  • Suboxone® is a combination product with buprenorphine and naloxone in a 4:1 ratio, respectively.


DEA Places Burprenorphine Products In Schedule III in 2002

The DEA placed buprenorphine and all products containing buprenorphine into schedule III in 2002. Since 2003, diversion, trafficking and abuse of buprenorphine have become more common in the United States.


FDA Approves Extended Release Buprenorphine Product – Butrans® in 2010

In June 2010, FDA approved an extended release transdermal film containing buprenorphine (Butrans®) for the management of moderate to severe chronic pain in patients requiring a continuous, around-the-clock opioid analgesic for an extended period of time.



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Feb 07

The Suboxone Roller-coaster Is Not Approved by the FDA

The dangerous Suboxone Roller-coaster is gaining popularity

There is no real ride with this name, however it represents a trend that seems to be increasing among opiate addicts around the world.  This opiate ride is not approved by the FDA. It is not doctor approved. And even though the ride is dangerous it doesn’t stop addicts from living this thrill ride.

Subutex and Suboxone are medications approved for the treatment of opiate dependence. Both medicines contain the active ingredient, buprenorphine hydrochloride, which works to reduce the symptoms of opiate dependence.

What is the Suboxone Roller-coaster Ride?

It can be described in one paragraph.

When someone alternates between Suboxone & typical pain medications. They might start Suboxone Monday evening after a weekend binge on Oxycodone. They might also stop the Suboxone on Thursday in anticipation of another Oxycodone binge on the weekend. This is done with a dangerous disregard of the risks of Suboxone precipitated withdrawal. Precipitated withdrawal is dangerous and can occur when an opiate user takes Suboxone before the opiates are naturally eliminated from their body.

Why would someone do this?

The answer is very clear. It allows opiate addicts to maintain their habit with much less money than using typical opiates every day.


Alternating Suboxone (Buprenorphine Naloxone) with other narcotics is dangerous

You’ve all heard the expression, “Have your cake and eat it too”, right?  Well this is what I am referring to when I talk about alternating between Suboxone strips and typical opiate drugs.

The main driver for this disturbing trend is money. Opiates are very expensive to take on a regular basis. Once you become addicted then you must take opiates, otherwise you’ll feel bad withdrawal symptoms.

It costs hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to keep an opiate addict comfortable per month. Suboxone helps an addict reduce the monthly cost to keep withdrawal at bay. Suboxone also allows an addict to keep on partying, albeit the partying will be less often and less intense.

Which opiates are addicts taking with Suboxone?

  • Hydrocodone (Lortab, Lorcet, Hydrocodone-APAP)
  • Oxycodone (Oxy’s, Roxy’s, Blues, Blueberries, Percocet, Percs)
  • Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)


Suboxone Precipitated Withdrawal – Fact or Fiction?


I have talked about Suboxone Precipitated Withdrawal before and suggested that it might be a myth perpetrated by the drug-industry to scare addicts into not alternating between Suboxone and other short acting opiates. You can read more about it in Suboxone Precipitated Withdrawal – Fact or Fiction.
Please remember that mixing Suboxone with other opiates, especially long lasting opiates such as Methadone is not only dangerous, it is downright deadly. I am basing this on what I’ve read and I believe it.

The Suboxone Roller-coaster saves the addict money

Typical street prices for 8mg Suboxone strips (buprenorphine naloxone) are similar to that of an Oxycodone 30 however the Suboxone lasts about six times as long. This unique combination has some resourceful addicts flirting with disaster and mixing the two to party with Oxy’s on the weekends and ride the Suboxone Roller-coaster during the week.

Dollars Per Hours – The Driving Factor

Drug Name & Strength Half Life Hours Street Price (Florida) Cost: Get High (subjective) Cost: Stop Withdrawal (subjective)
Oxycodone 30mg Tablet     6   $20   $80 / Day    $40 / Day
Hydrocodone 3 x 10mg Tablets     6   $18   $72 / Day    $36 / Day
Suboxone Tablet 8mg split evenly over four days    36   $18   n/a    $3 / Day
Suboxone Strips 8mg split evenly over four days    36   $18   n/a    $3 / Day


Dancing with the devil

I have heard far too many stories about addicts alternating between Suboxone and other narcotics to save money without giving up narcotics entirely. This is a disturbing trend. I don’t know what the long term effects of long term Suboxone use are but from what I have learned it doesn’t sound like a great idea. What do you think?

So many people playing the Suboxone game. I seem them party on Oxy 30’s occasionally and then ease into a softer Suboxone world where major withdrawal doesn’t hit until two to three days after your last dose.

Oxycodone is a habit that can, and does financially break a lot of people.

Suboxone, or Buprenorphine Naloxone on the other hand is relatively cheap. Suboxone maintenance doses can cost less than a lunch and hold off severe withdrawal for amazing lengths of time.

Let me know if you have heard about the Suboxone Roller-coaster ride. I would love to hear comments about this and see if it is a Florida trend, or something larger.


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Feb 02

Suboxone Withdrawal is TERRIBLE – Quitting Suboxone IS Possible

Freedom from Suboxone Addiction begins as an idea


Have you tried to quit Suboxone and felt like you’re never going to succeed?

Beating Suboxone AddictionYou know quitting is the right answer. But quitting is hard. Quitting an addictive drug is like swimming out to sea against the incoming waves. You end up back where you started, over, and over again. Does this sound familiar?

I know that gut wrenching feeling of ending up in the same place. I’m in pain. I’m exhausted. I’m losing hope that I’ll ever make it. Have you ever lost faith?

You are not alone. I was where you are now. I learned how to break free from my addiction. I know that you can too. Are you willing to make one small change?

Suboxone is very addictive and can cause unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Quitting Suboxone is impossible without making a decision to change.

You made it this far. You can end your addiction. All you need to do is initiate change no matter how small. You can make small changes right?

Congratulations you are on the road to recovery from Suboxone Addiction.


The next step in beating Suboxone Addiction is deciding on a change


A nuclear submarine is on collision course with a massive iceberg. The course must be changed to avoid catastrophe. Are you ready to change your heading towards a better future?

The captain of the submarine knows his direction of travel must be changed immediately. Without change the sub will crash into the iceberg. It would be a tragedy of epic proportions. Each moment of delay makes the turn away more difficult or impossible. Now is a great time to change direction, don’t you agree?

We can change our destination with a thought. That sounds weird but it is true. The moment you change direction,  no matter how small, you have changed your destination.

It happens instantly why not give it a shot?

Imagine your self-confidence soaring as your small changes accumulate becoming noticeable changes, and you begin to feel better. You will start thinking clearly again. This is how I beat addiction. It’s how you can beat addiction too if you want to.

Now is the time to turn the ship.

Now is the time to begin the change.

Now is the time to alter the destination!

Thankfully, the submarine crew followed orders and it was a happy ending.

Change is the key idea that starts the recovery. The laws of physics are clear that an object in motion is likely to stay in motion. You must make change a top-priority. If you accomplish only one thing today, decide what change you are willing to make to beat Suboxone addiction.

Are you ready to end the Suboxone addiction once and for all?


The most important step is making the change that you decided on

You need to make your change and make it permanent. After you make your change then you should repeat the process from the beginning but make each change more difficult. It may take several months to quit Suboxone and avoid withdrawal symptoms. If you haven’t seen my Suboxone Taper Charting tool you may want to work with your doctor and plan a very gradual taper plan.

Addicts are brilliant people. It is proven that addicts tend to have higher IQ’s than non-addicts. Then why isn’t beating an addiction easier?

I wish that I had an answer to the question.

I do have a solution to the problem. You can conquer your addiction starting today. You simply need the right motivation. You need to want the change before you can make it happen.

Have you decided what change you want to make today?

Knowledge acquisition IS change

You can start by learning about addiction.

Learning about addiction will help you to conquer it. The submarine captain has studied the enemy so the enemy can be destroyed. Knowing the enemy helps defeat the enemy. Addiction is the enemy, right?

It doesn’t matter how small your change is. The smaller your change the better chances of success! What changes can you commit to right now?

A drug holiday IS change

You can initiate drug holidays or times when you will NOT use the drug. It doesn’t matter how small the window of time is as long as you are serious about sticking to it. Don’t make your change too difficult and set yourself up for failure.

Refuse to use on Sunday.

Refuse to use between 9am and noon.

Refuse to use on holidays.

These are only ideas. What small change will you make today?

Write it down somewhere where you’ll see it every day. If you can’t do that than do something to symbolize the decision like tying a string on your finger. Hold yourself accountable to the small change. I know this probably sounds corny, but it’s serious. Make your changes SMALL so you easily handle them. I mean really small too, so that you could bet your life being able to do it. OK?

Small change is easier than big change.

Small change has the highest probability of succeeding. If you make a small change in the right direction your confidence will soar. This pattern of small, steady changes will take you to a place you never thought existed without drugs.

I learned how to escape addiction with the help of others. My present, and future is bright and hopeful. I know you will succeed because you are still reading. Will you stick with me?

You are almost there. The next step is urgency.


Recovery from Suboxone addiction works best with a sense of urgency


Urgency is driven by fear or passion.

Change is critical in quitting SuboxoneIf you don’t have fear or passion than you don’t have urgency and you are unlikely to change course. Urgency means making change your first priority. Can you think of a change that might be good for you?

If you don’t make changes than you will never change the destination. You will end up at the same place over, and over again. Your life will not get any easier until you start to make changes. Every day, every week that goes by makes it more difficult to quit. You know in the back of your mind that something needs to change. Are you with me?

Could you NOT use for the first ten minutes of each hour?

You could easily not use from the top of each hour until ten minutes after the hour. I mean, ten minutes can not be that hard. Sure, it might be uncomfortable if you are partying and you suddenly stop for a break. Your partying friends will laugh but they’ll watch and expect you to fail. Do this every day, every week, and you will begin glowing with confidence. Your confidence will become contagious. Can you see it?

Are you not ready to reduce usage yet? No problem.

You can still begin to change now.

Learning about addiction is action. Learning will help you understand the enemy. You can destroy the enemy with knowledge and time. Imagine how you will feel once you have conquered addiction. Make knowledge your first change.

Find a good book about addiction so you can learn.

If you don’t do it now while the voices aren’t telling you otherwise, you may never do it. Start steering your life in the right direction today. Start your change now with urgency because life is not a drill. You may have dodged bullets until now but you can’t forever. You already know this though, right?

I picked two of my favorite books on addiction and they are both really cheap. You can probably buy both of them for less than it would cost for one Suboxone tablet on the street. It’s hard to believe that one pill costs the same as two books that could save your life. I’m sure you are tired of wasting money on Suboxone, right?

The books I recommend are shown as links within this article. Consider reading your book with a friend. Two people have a better chance of success than one.

It is not heroin or cocaine that makes one an addict, it is the need to escape from a harsh reality. There are more television addicts, more baseball and football addicts, more movie addicts, and certainly more alcohol addicts in this country than there are narcotics addicts. Shirley Chisholm

In the interest of full disclosure, I am an affiliate of Amazon. The prices are exactly the same whether you use an affiliate link or not.

Consistent change, a sense of urgency and time are the pillars of success

Some people don’t have addictive personalities. Some people have strong will-power. We weren’t blessed with will-power but we were blessed with intensity.

Addicts do things with great intensity. Now is the time to get intense and make a small change.

Then another change. And another. You get the picture right?

Now is the time to stay on track and continue changing your destination. Begin making your first change today. And remember that knowledge is a start in the right direction.

I’m excited that you have made it this far.

You are obviously ready to quit Suboxone for good and I’m confident you will succeed.

Its time to crush your Suboxone addiction while there is still time.

Suboxone Withdrawal - How to quit Suboxone once and for all


What are your thoughts about this article? I hope it helped motivate you to make a change. I hope it starts the same fire in you that it started for me. I beat Suboxone addiction and so can you.

I would also LOVE to hear any success stories, or lessons learned that I can pass on to others.




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Dec 20

Suboxone (Buprenorphine) Addiction Taper Planning

How to successfully wean from Suboxone

Tapering slowly, taking into account how quickly the opiate in your system is leaving. Keeping your blood plasma levels steady and moving slowly downward is the secret. Don’t cheat because you aren’t cheating anyone but yourself! Not your wife, daughter, son, family, friend, but yourself. You have bright life ahead of you! I am positive.


Suboxone Taper Chart - Opiate Withdrawal Minimization

Click the image to run the Suboxone Taper Charting Tool

My personal experience with Suboxone was a positive one, after a couple failures.  I was able to taper off of Suboxone without any significant problems or withdrawal symptoms. There is one key understanding that you need to make about Suboxone.

Suboxone is extremely STRONG and addictive. Your doctor didn’t share that with you when you went in for treatment did they?  Suboxone is better than typical opiates in that it doesn’t produce the “high” you get with opiates but it blocks the intense and excruciating withdrawal symptoms felt when tapering down usage of an addictive opiate.

Once you realize how strong Suboxone is you can begin to wean off from it. I must remind you that changing your medication dosage is something you can NOT do without doctor approval. Anything suggested here is simply something that worked for one person and that person got doctor approval to wean in the method being described.

It doesn’t take a lot of Suboxone to kill 90% of the withdrawal symptoms, but it does take a fair dose to make you feel “almost as good” as when you were taking your opiates. What do you want to feel good or get off of opiates?

Building a Taper Charting Plan

Use the tool on this site, that was built by a developer who dealt with this same issue. You can plot out your daily dose amounts and get an idea of how much drug is still in your system as the days go by.  Since Suboxone has a long half life you don’t always feel the withdrawal the day after quitting your last dose, it could take up to four days from high doses but when it hits, it hits like bricks.

Use the Suboxone Taper Charting Tool here

You must taper extremely slowly down to below 1mg daily, which is where most people begin to feel it most difficult to wean lower. When you get below 1mg you have to be prepared to wait an hour or two after taking a dose for the pain to go away. If you are patient, the mild discomfort does go away with extreme-micro doses of Suboxone.

My doctor disagreed but allowed me to move forward with my taper plan.  Once I got below 1/16th of a strip I was pretty much weaned off and any remaining pain minor.  It was well worth the extra effort.

Not respecting the power of Suboxone will make you slave to it

Again, it is my strong belief that unless one respects the sheer power of Suboxone they will be forever hostage to it.

My advice to anyone struggling getting off Suboxone.  Realize that doses of 24mg or 16mg are necessary at first, but after a few weeks and one is stable, one can rapidly decrease to down around 1mg daily, within a week or two max. Tapering below 1mg is when you need to slow things down big-time and you let yourself feel some discomfort during the day.

A 1mg dose after being on Suboxone for a few weeks is in my opinion just as effective as an 16mg dose during the beginning of the treatment.  Once you are down to 1mg, you should plan on taking two more months taking sub-1mg doses (this means cutting a strip into more than 8 pieces, preferably 16 pieces) and only take the dose when you feel “bad”.

Just tasting the “orange” taste is enough to ease pain


If you take a dose after feeling “bad”, know in your mind this stuff is very powerful, you only need to taste the “orange” for 10 seconds or so.  Then wait at least an hour before thinking the dose didn’t work and taking another.  Small doses work, but they do take some patience.  If you can make a strip last two weeks THEN you can think about stopping without much pain.  Suboxone doctors would laugh at this last paragraph, but this author has witnessed several people learn this the hard way.

Wish you the best in tapering and quitting highly addictive opiates for ever! :)

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Suboxone Detox Centers


Suboxone detox programs and those that use buprenorphine can help patients stop taking opiate drugs. Suboxone and Subutex are two drugs approved for this treatment. People who suffer from stronger opioid dependency may be treated with buprenorphine.

See the full article here along with the toll-free phone number

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Apr 17

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Suboxone Film Coupons – Here to Help Coupons & Printable Coupons

The manufacturer of Suboxone Film, Reckitt Benckiser currently has two money saving programs for assisting patients who are taking Suboxone.  They also have the “Here to Help” program to help those who are taking Suboxone with any treatment related questions or problems.

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Think you might be opioid dependent?

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Want to know what treatment is like with SUBOXONE Film?

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Jan 06

3 Month Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit

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Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit

The subject of this blog post is taken from another that I found via a web-search for Suboxone Addiction.  I am making a post about this question because it is a common one that I get asked here and I believe it is more of a problem than we know about– and the main reason I started this website was to help others with this problem.

I will post quotes from the full blog post titled 3 Month Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit found here.

This post also discusses the authors real-world taper off of Suboxone using a very gradual taper which is illustrated using the self-made Taper Charting Tool

Have Been Addicted to Roxycodone For Almost 2 Years

I have been an addict to Roxycodone for almost 2 years, I have attempted to quit multiple times using the cold turkey method first, which helped me mentally and physically because it gave me a new aspect on life. However, I only stayed clean for maybe a month and slipped back in the hole.

This is a common start to the story, an addiction to a powerful opiate like Ocycodone and then getting some form of help which leads to Suboxone Treatment for Opiate Addiction.

Used Suboxone for Opioid Addiction thinking it is Safer and/or Better

After some talk with my friends, they persuade me to not use Methadone because there is a great chance of becoming addicted, so instead they told me Suboxone would never get me addicted because it never gets you high.

Again, this is so common and I think so far the original poster is taking the right path.  I think Suboxone Treatment saves a lot of lives and helps people break free from the strong opiate (oxycodone, etc.) addiction that destroys lives but in my humble opinion it leads to people dependent on Suboxone or who find it very hard to break free from the Suboxone.

Failed Quitting Suboxone – Tried Quitting Suboxone Unsuccessfully

The first few times trying to quit off Suboxone I failed but eventually this last time I successfully quit the “blues”. I took the suggested dose of suboxone 2mg 2x a day and was doing fine, with mild w/d effects. Every once in a while I would do an extra 2mg when I would get depressed or start craving the “blues”…

There are so many variations to this persons; story but the basic story is the same, the person broke free from the Oxycodone stronghold but is now dealing with a less-destructive but equally as challenging problem.  Quitting Suboxone is very difficult and not many doctors admit this up front– I’m convinced that many doctors don’t believe it much like psychiatrist didn’t believe in SSRI withdrawal.  It took years before psychiatrists’ and drug manufactures (and FDA) believed in SSRI withdrawal or SSRI discontinuation syndrome but now it is widely accepted.

Suboxone is Very Strong Medicine – Much Stronger Than Doctors Seem To Believe

My theory is that doctors do not realize how strong Suboxone is and they underestimate how a 2mg dose can cause an addiction.  I recall certain doctors saying that anyone noticing withdrawal from a 1mg Suboxone dose is not really experiencing withdrawal and it is “all in their mind”.

First of all – isn’t withdrawal always “in our mind”?  That is a rhetorical question.

Want To Quit Suboxone But Cannot

The last part of the post that I’ll talk about is the part where the original poster talk about how they believe it is time to quit and they feel that being on Suboxone is not being “really clean”.

This is a hotly debatable topic, are you really clean when on Suboxone or not?

I used to say “Yes” but am leaning more towards “No’ after a few years experience and/or exposure to the medication through myself or friends.  I think an addict should be proud of breaking free of Oxycodones’ and getting on a Suboxone treatment plan by a Suboxone doctor but I also think that the addict needs to remember they are still dependent.

I have noticed recently I have been seeing signs of addiction towards the Suboxone; things such as getting depressed, feeling tired all the time unless I do another dose of suboxone, and craving doses a lot. I think it is time to give up Suboxone and getting completely clean. I am a student in College and am holding a job, and I have made it this far without being clean because I don’t ever have the time to quit and deal with w/d.

The original poster said their dose was currently at 8mg daily, which in my opinion is pretty high, much higher than probably needed but I am not a doctor and everyone is different.  I personally feel that any addict after they have gone a month without Oxycodones can wean down to 4mg daily without much physical discomfort.

I also believe it is not that difficult to wean down to 1mg Suboxone daily over a period of a month, even from an Oxycodone addiction from as much as 120 – 240mg daily.

My personal experience is that you need a front-loaded dose of Suboxone, something in the neighborhood of 8mg – 24mg daily for a few days and can then taper down to 8mg daily for the first week after.  Depending on how strong of an addiction you came from it shouldn’t be hard to taper to 1mg of Suboxone daily within 30 days.

Tapering To 1mg Suboxone Daily is Not That Hard

I have found that going below 1mg of Suboxone the point where things start becoming challenging. But again this information is being provided for entertainment purposes only and all dose amounts should be provided by your doctor and followed exactly.

The original poster also said:

My daily routine:

– I wake up and immediately insufflate 2mg, I go to my job or school and last 4-5 hours later when I insufflate another 2mg, then in 3 hours I insufflate another 2mg. Recently, I insufflate another 2mg in another 2 hours.

I have to say that this is a bad idea.  You should not snort Suboxone for one it is not an efficient means of treatment and wastes the medication not to mention you don’t know what the side-effects are from taking medication that way.  There is no recreational value to snorting Suboxone, generally speaking from what I have seen.  There is little to no recreational value in Suboxone period from what I’ve seen and experienced.

How To Quit Suboxone For Good – Long, Slow, Gradual Tapering

I believe that tapering from any addictive medication is the way to go IF you can do it. Tapering from a highly addictive substance like Oxycodone is nearly impossible because it is so addictive and because it has such a short half-life.

Half-life basically means the number of hours before one half the useful part of the medication is removed from your body. Oxycodone has a very short half life in the neighborhood of six hours so if you rail 30mg of Oxycodone at noon half that is gone by 6pm and nearly all of it gone within 24 hours.

Suboxone Has a Very Long Half Life

Suboxone has a super long half-life compared to Oxycodone, approximately 37 hours and it is different for everyone, could be as high as 60 hours in some people on other medications with over-worked liver.  The difference between a medication having a 6 hour half-life and a 37 hour half-life is night-and-day.

Suboxone Half-Life Night-and-Day Difference Compared to Oxycodone

You can check out the Half-Life Elimination Charting Tool on this site to experiment with how long medications stay in your system based on half-life.  The tool was developed by a programmer and is for entertainment purposes only but it will give you an idea of the differences between a 6 vs 37 hour half-life medicine.

The tool works for any medicine that has a linear half-life as long as you use the same unit of measure for example use dose in milligrams, grams, micro-grams,  oz, etc., it doesn’t matter as long as the dose is numeric and consistent.  If you took 1.2 grams of a medicine one day and 200mg the next day just enter 1,200 milligrams and then 200mg using the common denominator of “milligrams”.

Suboxone Half-Life Elimination Tool – Suboxone Tapering Tool

** For educational purposes only I am not a doctor – I am a computer programmer who used basic half-life elimination formulas to develop the tool.

If you open the tool, you will need to have Microsoft Silverlight on your computer.  You may already have Silverlight, but if not you will be prompted to install it.  You can run the tool on non-Microsoft computers such as Mac or Linux.


The Real Secret To Quitting Suboxone

I think that a very long, shallow taper is the way to get off Suboxone with little or no discomfort.  When I say long, I am thinking of at least one month to go from 1mg daily to nothing.  Getting to 1mg daily of Suboxone is a walk-in-the-park but going below 1mg starts becoming challenging and I would never wish anyone go “cold-turkey” from any dose of Suboxone heaven forbid 8mg daily.  I an not a doctor and you need to get all dosing information from your doctor. This information is being provided as an opinion and possibly something you can suggest to your doctor and ask your doctor if it is something they are willing to allow you to do.

My Personal Taper From Suboxone

First three days 24mg Suboxone, then three days at 16mg, then two days at 12mg to finish out the first week.  After getting past the first week you have bypassed the hardest days of opiate withdrawal.  From then on a moderate taper down to 4mg Suboxone daily.  I then took another TWO full months to taper from 4mg to zero taking the last month to go from 1mg to zero by cutting Suboxone strips into very thin tiny (almost as small as a pin head) that when you put under your tongue you barely taste the “orange” stuff.

Getting to 1mg isn’t really so tough and if you take it slow enough you will be able to quit.  This was my personal experience and should not be used by anyone without approval and guidance from your doctor!!

Notice this first month chart, how it loads heavy at first to curb the hard part of opiate withdrawal and ramps down fast to a lower dose.  You would be surprised how STRONG 4mg of Suboxone is once you break the Oxys.  In fact 2mg Suboxone can kill some pretty bad withdrawal if you give it a few hours time (patience!!!) and let yourself experience a little discomfort.

Good luck!!

Planning a Drug Taper

The Tool for creating this graph was made by a programmer (me) and only does a month at a time for now but I will update it to do more as soon as I get time. :)


View larger image HERE or open the Suboxone Taper Charting Tool HERE

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Aug 06

Morphine Addiction Treatment – Buprenorphine Naloxone (Suboxone or Subutex) vs Methadone

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Quitting Opiates – Which works better Suboxone or Methadone

There is no silver-bullet answer to this question, but in my experience buprenorphine naloxone (aka Suboxone) is a better choice because I think it works better and it is easier to quit once you reach that point.  Quitting Suboxone or Methadone can be a challenge, but I think Suboxone is just a little easier.

There are some variables involved that will probably be considered, price of course is always on the list unless you are made of money.  Then you have to ask the question, does the drug do what is promised, will it help you quit abusing opiates and get you off opiates ultimately with the least amount of pain possible.  The third factor I would consider is how easy is it to quit taking the medication once you are ready, because you are trading one opiate for another with either choice.

Summary – There are basically two choices of approved drugs for opiate addiction

  • Buprenorphine Naloxone (aka Suboxone, Subutex)
  • Methadone


Summary – How to decide between Suboxone or Methadone


  1. Cost of Suboxone or Methadone Treatment Plans
  2. Effectiveness of the drug in getting you off of opiates and keeping you off them.
  3. Ability to quit the drug without major problems or withdrawal symptoms.

Suboxone Strips

Suboxone (aka Buprenorphine Naloxone) Treatment Plan Typical Prices

First Month Costs

Initial Doctor Visit or Evaluation Visit – Around $300

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $200 first month

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming one and a half 8mg Suboxones’ daily (45 pills * $10) – $450 first month.  You will probably start at two or three 8mg Suboxones the first few days and rapidly drop to one 8mg daily and possibly 1/2 of an 8mg Suboxone by the end of the month.  4mg of Suboxone is still a very potent dose.

Second Month Costs

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $100 second month.  Many doctors will allow you to visit less frequently after you build some trust in the relationship.

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming 1/2 of an 8mg Suboxone daily (15 pills * $10) – $150 second month

Third Month Costs

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $100 third month.  Many doctors will allow you to visit less frequently after you build some trust in the relationship.

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming average of 1/8th of an 8mg Suboxone daily, plus a few extra pills to cut as small as possible for tapering (use two pills for an entire month period!  (10 pills * $10) - $100 third month

Total Cost of Suboxone Treatment over a three to four month period:  $1,400.  This sounds like a crazy high number, and it is expensive if you don’t have insurance coverage, but it is a low price to pay compared to the alternative.  I don’t know about you but I know of many people who were at a two hundred dollar per day habit so the Suboxone was actually cheaper than the daily routine.


Effectiveness of Suboxone

Buprenorphine is a relatively new drug for treating opiate addiction, such as oxycodone addiction or even heroin addiction.  Suboxone has become very popular in the US, quite simply because it works for most people, and the numbers are slightly better than Methadone for number of addicts who remain clean after a period of months after treatment.

From personal experiences I can say that it works because I’ve seen friends go through the treatment with good success.


Ability to Taper off of Suboxone after the treatment

This is probably one of the weak points for Suboxone, but it is no cakewalk for Methadone either.  You are trading one opiate for another, so you are technically not “clean” until you kick the Suboxone habit, and that is not as easy as it might seem.  But don’t let that deter you from improving your life, or possibly saving it!


Methdone Costs, Effectiveness and Ability to Taper off

I have not seen person experiences or talked to people who have, so do not have this information in as much detail.  The costs are similar to Suboxone for treatment however the Methadone drug itself is very low cost.  Methadone has a longer half life so technically you would think it will be easier to wean off of, but I have heard of many addicts that are on methadone for life.

I am definitely biased towards the Suboxone but I recommend you try to find more detailed info on Methadone first.

If you are looking for a medication for Heroin addiction treatment, Morphine Addiction Treatment, or Hydrocodone Addiction Treatment, then learn about buprenorphine naloxone and methadone  as much as possible before making a decision.

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Aug 03

Illustration Showing How Buprenorphine Blocks Opiate Receptors

Great Illustration Showing How Buprenorphine Blocks Opiate Receptors

This illustration is owned by so I am posting a link to the page.


This makes things crystal clear on how Suboxone works.  The Buprenorphine kind of fills in the receptor with junk so that the opiate doesn’t fit in perfectly.  Kind of like if you put a bunch of boxes in your  four passenger car, and you can only get two passengers in at a time.  The Bupe limits the opiate effect.   Cool!

How Buprenorphine Works

How Buprenorphine Works

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