Category Archive: Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)

Oct 23

Street Value Of Suboxone, Steet Value Of Other Opiates (Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Dilaudid, Subutex, Zubsolv)

Street Value of Various Opioid Medications

Suboxone Savings Hard To Find in 2014

Suboxone Savings Hard To Find in 2014

I would never condone buying medications this way.

I have been asked (several times) to solicit street pricing information from people across the world about prices for Suboxone, Suboxone Film, Oxycodone and just about any other opiate you can think of.

This is purely for entertainment purposes, it is sometimes funny to see what people are paying for things that our insurance buys for little to no copay.

I personally do not know how people can afford to buy on the street, but I am sure they have their reasons and we are not here to judge anyone.

Street Values For Suboxone & Other Opioids In Your Area?

I have been gathering information for a few weeks and have numbers for some of these opiate medications. If you have numbers for your city leave an anonymous comment please and I’ll update with your info. I might not be real fast but I will get it done.

Thanks for sharing it will be interesting to see the results. If I get enough of them I might make a nice graphic of the data.

Nothing Implied Here – Entertainment Only

Just because we might be interested in seeing what people pay for things we take, does not imply we would condone selling or buying anything on the street, for one it is illegal, and another you could be getting fake pills with dangerous cutting agents!

I speak for myself, have never, not once exchanged anything like this. I would be too nervous as a buyer (of dying) and too nervous as a seller of going to prison for a felony. But I do live in Florida and there is no shortage of people that know the under-world. So in the nature of entertainment…

Street Value Suboxone

MFG Deals on Buprenorphine

Savings Manufacturer for Buprenorphine

This section includes Buprenorphine as it is essentially the same thing as Suboxone but we will list some non-generic Buprenorphine equivalents. 

Orlando, Florida Area

Suboxone Film 8mg: $14 to $20 per strip, they are relatively easy to get.

Suboxone Tablet 8mg: $10 to $20 per tablet.

Suboxone Film 2mg: no market


Street Value of Butrans

Butrans20mcgThe only info I could find was on the transdermal patch and these estimates were not solid as there is apparently not a big market for it.

Orlando, Florida Area

Butrans Transdermal Patch 5mcg / Hour:  no market

Butrans Transdermal Patch 10mcg / Hour:  $5 – $8

Butrans Transdermal Patch 20mcg / Hour:  $8 – $12

Street Value of Subutex

Awaiting information

Street Value of Zubsolv

Awaiting information

Street Value of Oxycodone

This was the easiest one to figure out, apparently this is what everyone wants and the prices are CRAZY high.

Orlando, Florida Area

Oxy30Oxycodone 15 (aka Greens):  $10-$15 per pill !!

Oxycodone 30 (aka Blues): $20-$30  per pill !!

Oxycodone / APAP 10 / 325: $6 – $10

Oxycodone / APAP 5 / 325: $3 – $5 not much demand


Street Value of Hydrocodone

Orlando, Florida Area

Hydrocodone / APAP  5 / 325 or 5 / 500: $1 – $3 not much demand

Hydrocodone / APAP  10 / 325: $5 – $8

Hydrocodone / APAP  10 / 500: $5 – $6

Street Value of Dilaudid (Hydromorphone)

Orlando, Florida Area

Dilaudid 1mg Vial of Intravenous – $15 – $20

Street Value of Morphine

Awaiting information

Street Value of Demerol

Apparently these aren’t around anymore.

Street Value of Tramadol (yuck, people actually buy this that way)

Apparently very little value, possibly $1 or $2


Did I forget any others?  Probably. Again feel free to leave anonymous comments. Thank you.


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Feb 02

Suboxone Withdrawal is TERRIBLE – Quitting Suboxone IS Possible

Freedom from Suboxone Addiction begins as an idea


Have you tried to quit Suboxone and felt like you’re never going to succeed?

Beating Suboxone AddictionYou know quitting is the right answer. But quitting is hard. Quitting an addictive drug is like swimming out to sea against the incoming waves. You end up back where you started, over, and over again. Does this sound familiar?

I know that gut wrenching feeling of ending up in the same place. I’m in pain. I’m exhausted. I’m losing hope that I’ll ever make it. Have you ever lost faith?

You are not alone. I was where you are now. I learned how to break free from my addiction. I know that you can too. Are you willing to make one small change?

Suboxone is very addictive and can cause unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Quitting Suboxone is impossible without making a decision to change.

You made it this far. You can end your addiction. All you need to do is initiate change no matter how small. You can make small changes right?

Congratulations you are on the road to recovery from Suboxone Addiction.


The next step in beating Suboxone Addiction is deciding on a change


A nuclear submarine is on collision course with a massive iceberg. The course must be changed to avoid catastrophe. Are you ready to change your heading towards a better future?

The captain of the submarine knows his direction of travel must be changed immediately. Without change the sub will crash into the iceberg. It would be a tragedy of epic proportions. Each moment of delay makes the turn away more difficult or impossible. Now is a great time to change direction, don’t you agree?

We can change our destination with a thought. That sounds weird but it is true. The moment you change direction,  no matter how small, you have changed your destination.

It happens instantly why not give it a shot?

Imagine your self-confidence soaring as your small changes accumulate becoming noticeable changes, and you begin to feel better. You will start thinking clearly again. This is how I beat addiction. It’s how you can beat addiction too if you want to.

Now is the time to turn the ship.

Now is the time to begin the change.

Now is the time to alter the destination!

Thankfully, the submarine crew followed orders and it was a happy ending.

Change is the key idea that starts the recovery. The laws of physics are clear that an object in motion is likely to stay in motion. You must make change a top-priority. If you accomplish only one thing today, decide what change you are willing to make to beat Suboxone addiction.

Are you ready to end the Suboxone addiction once and for all?


The most important step is making the change that you decided on

You need to make your change and make it permanent. After you make your change then you should repeat the process from the beginning but make each change more difficult. It may take several months to quit Suboxone and avoid withdrawal symptoms. If you haven’t seen my Suboxone Taper Charting tool you may want to work with your doctor and plan a very gradual taper plan.

Addicts are brilliant people. It is proven that addicts tend to have higher IQ’s than non-addicts. Then why isn’t beating an addiction easier?

I wish that I had an answer to the question.

I do have a solution to the problem. You can conquer your addiction starting today. You simply need the right motivation. You need to want the change before you can make it happen.

Have you decided what change you want to make today?

Knowledge acquisition IS change

You can start by learning about addiction.

Learning about addiction will help you to conquer it. The submarine captain has studied the enemy so the enemy can be destroyed. Knowing the enemy helps defeat the enemy. Addiction is the enemy, right?

It doesn’t matter how small your change is. The smaller your change the better chances of success! What changes can you commit to right now?

A drug holiday IS change

You can initiate drug holidays or times when you will NOT use the drug. It doesn’t matter how small the window of time is as long as you are serious about sticking to it. Don’t make your change too difficult and set yourself up for failure.

Refuse to use on Sunday.

Refuse to use between 9am and noon.

Refuse to use on holidays.

These are only ideas. What small change will you make today?

Write it down somewhere where you’ll see it every day. If you can’t do that than do something to symbolize the decision like tying a string on your finger. Hold yourself accountable to the small change. I know this probably sounds corny, but it’s serious. Make your changes SMALL so you easily handle them. I mean really small too, so that you could bet your life being able to do it. OK?

Small change is easier than big change.

Small change has the highest probability of succeeding. If you make a small change in the right direction your confidence will soar. This pattern of small, steady changes will take you to a place you never thought existed without drugs.

I learned how to escape addiction with the help of others. My present, and future is bright and hopeful. I know you will succeed because you are still reading. Will you stick with me?

You are almost there. The next step is urgency.


Recovery from Suboxone addiction works best with a sense of urgency


Urgency is driven by fear or passion.

Change is critical in quitting SuboxoneIf you don’t have fear or passion than you don’t have urgency and you are unlikely to change course. Urgency means making change your first priority. Can you think of a change that might be good for you?

If you don’t make changes than you will never change the destination. You will end up at the same place over, and over again. Your life will not get any easier until you start to make changes. Every day, every week that goes by makes it more difficult to quit. You know in the back of your mind that something needs to change. Are you with me?

Could you NOT use for the first ten minutes of each hour?

You could easily not use from the top of each hour until ten minutes after the hour. I mean, ten minutes can not be that hard. Sure, it might be uncomfortable if you are partying and you suddenly stop for a break. Your partying friends will laugh but they’ll watch and expect you to fail. Do this every day, every week, and you will begin glowing with confidence. Your confidence will become contagious. Can you see it?

Are you not ready to reduce usage yet? No problem.

You can still begin to change now.

Learning about addiction is action. Learning will help you understand the enemy. You can destroy the enemy with knowledge and time. Imagine how you will feel once you have conquered addiction. Make knowledge your first change.

Find a good book about addiction so you can learn.

If you don’t do it now while the voices aren’t telling you otherwise, you may never do it. Start steering your life in the right direction today. Start your change now with urgency because life is not a drill. You may have dodged bullets until now but you can’t forever. You already know this though, right?

I picked two of my favorite books on addiction and they are both really cheap. You can probably buy both of them for less than it would cost for one Suboxone tablet on the street. It’s hard to believe that one pill costs the same as two books that could save your life. I’m sure you are tired of wasting money on Suboxone, right?

The books I recommend are shown as links within this article. Consider reading your book with a friend. Two people have a better chance of success than one.

It is not heroin or cocaine that makes one an addict, it is the need to escape from a harsh reality. There are more television addicts, more baseball and football addicts, more movie addicts, and certainly more alcohol addicts in this country than there are narcotics addicts. Shirley Chisholm

In the interest of full disclosure, I am an affiliate of Amazon. The prices are exactly the same whether you use an affiliate link or not.

Consistent change, a sense of urgency and time are the pillars of success

Some people don’t have addictive personalities. Some people have strong will-power. We weren’t blessed with will-power but we were blessed with intensity.

Addicts do things with great intensity. Now is the time to get intense and make a small change.

Then another change. And another. You get the picture right?

Now is the time to stay on track and continue changing your destination. Begin making your first change today. And remember that knowledge is a start in the right direction.

I’m excited that you have made it this far.

You are obviously ready to quit Suboxone for good and I’m confident you will succeed.

Its time to crush your Suboxone addiction while there is still time.

Suboxone Withdrawal - How to quit Suboxone once and for all


What are your thoughts about this article? I hope it helped motivate you to make a change. I hope it starts the same fire in you that it started for me. I beat Suboxone addiction and so can you.

I would also LOVE to hear any success stories, or lessons learned that I can pass on to others.




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Apr 17

Opiate Dependence, Cold Turkey Withdrawal & Suboxone – Page 2 of 2

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Hitting Rock Bottom, Recovering & Hitting Rock Bottom Again

Rock bottom is a tough place to be, but on the other hand it can be a blessing because that is what it takes for some people to take action.  The truth of the matter is that a typical addict will hit rock bottom several times possibly as many as half a dozen before hitting that point where they have a chance of recovering. Some people do it their first time, for me it took about three times.

The first time I ended up in the hospital with complications related to high doses of opiates and it was enough to put a scare into me.  I put together a taper plan and followed it to the bet of my ability.  I actually almost made it to the end when I relapsed and within two weeks was right back where I started.


Real Rock Bottom – Cold Turkey Withdrawal & Counseling

My second crash to rock-bottom was much worse, my family intervened and they all told me how much I was hurting them and how they could see how I was hurting myself.  Getting my family involved was crushing and had me contemplating suicide as a very possible way to escape.   I was angry at my family and friends for not believing I could quit on my own and I proved them wrong by completing a cold-turkey withdrawal over about a ten day period. I gave it everything I had and barely made it; I can remember somewhere around day 4, 5 & 6 thinking I couldn’t take it anymore and was about to ask to be taken to the ER.  I held strong and pulled through on my own.   I swore to never go through that again and I attended NA meetings once or twice a week.

At this point I didn’t really believe *I* belonged in those meetings.  I still felt that I was “above” them.  This was far from the truth.

Suboxone Treatment & Counseling

But once an addict always an addict, I relapsed a few months later after I forgot about how bad things were.  This time I caught the mistake myself and took action on it myself.  I searched the yellow pages for Suboxone Clinics.  Let me start off by saying this, if Oxycodone is the devil, then Suboxone is the devils’ sister.  But if you go into a Suboxone treatment with a strong respect for it, you have a good chance at succeeding.

I make no money for talking positive or negative about Suboxone.  I can think of a lot of negative things to say about it, but I can say that it very well may have saved my life and I pray that the government never takes this amazing drug off the market.  If anything needs to be done, it is that doctors need a better education about Suboxone, the persons taking it know much more than those prescribing.

Lessons Learned in the Opiate Addiction

I’ve learned a lot over the years about opiate addiction, and various methods of recovery.  If one of my family members were on the same path as I was; I would definitely recommend he Suboxone Treatment, but I’d also make sure they had a very strong respect for Suboxone and how powerful it really is.  You are trading one opiate for another, but Suboxone has a very long half life and offers other advantages that basic opiates don’t offer.

I hope you enjoyed my story, and I hope that it compels you to share yours.




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Apr 17

Suboxone Film Coupons – Suboxone Here To Help $0 Copay Card

Suboxone Film Coupons – Here to Help Coupons & Printable Coupons

The manufacturer of Suboxone Film, Reckitt Benckiser currently has two money saving programs for assisting patients who are taking Suboxone.  They also have the “Here to Help” program to help those who are taking Suboxone with any treatment related questions or problems.

Suboxone Film Coupon, Pay $0 Copay and Save up to $50 per month. (Reckitt Benckiser Patient Assistance) (offer extended through 2016)

Suboxone Film Here to Help Guided Support for your Suboxone Sublingual Film Treatment

Suboxone Film Copay Reduction Offer – Free Printable Coupon – Save up to 75% Retail Prices

Suboxone Here to Help $0 Copay Card Save Up To $50 Monthly With Each Refill

Suboxone $0 Copay Card

Suboxone $0 Copay Card

$0 copay for SUBOXONE Film has been extended until 2015.

For more information, visit

Print the $0 Copay Card, visit

Specifics of the program:

  • copay card covers the portion that your health insurance does not pay (up to $50 per month) for SUBOXONE Film.  Instead of paying out-of-pocket amounts for Suboxone, you can use the $0 Copay card to reduce copay amounts by up to $50 a month.
  • Makes Suboxone Film more affordable than the SUBOXONE® (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablets (CIII)*
  • SUBOXONE Film is equally effective as the tablet with many benefits.

Suboxone Film is Better Than Suboxone Tablets

  • Faster to dissolve than SUBOXONE® (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablets
  • Better taste than the tablets (more than 71% of patients scored the taste as neutral or better)
  • Each dose is individually wrapped in compact unit-dose pouches that are child-resistant and easy to carry
  • Once-daily dosing like the Suboxone tablet
  • Clinically interchangeable with SUBOXONE Tablet, so your doctor can easily transition you. Your doctor will monitor your progress to ensure your dose of SUBOXONE Film is appropriate.

Present this offer each time you fill your SUBOXONE Film prescription. This Suboxone Film Coupon offer is valid until June, 2015.

Reckitt Benckiser Patient Assistance – Suboxone Film Here to Help Program

Here To Help ProgramThe Here to Help® Program was created to help motivate, encourage, and equip you to manage your daily experience while in treatment for opioid dependence. Reckitt Benckiser is one of the best drug manufacturers out there when it comes to caring about patients, they are second to none in financial assistance.

Visit the Here to Help website by visiting here.

Think you might be opioid dependent?

Take this quiz.

Ready for treatment?

This can help you find a doctor certified to treat opioid dependence in the privacy of his or her office. You can also call 1-866-973-HERE(4373) for help connecting to a doctor in your area.

Want to know what treatment is like with SUBOXONE Film?

This can help you understand the stages of treatment.

3. Printable Coupon For Suboxone – Up to 75% Off Retail Prices

Printable Coupon for Suboxone


For more information on this program visit here.

Save up to 75% off Retail Prices for Suboxone.


  • Discount program for drugs.
  • Works like an AAA card that will get you discounts on hotels.
  • Ideal for people with no drug coverage, self employed.
  • Donut Hole Seniors
  • Use the coupon at most large pharmacies such as CVS or Walgreens
  • Not to be combined with insurance or other offers.

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Jan 06

3 Month Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit

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Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit

The subject of this blog post is taken from another that I found via a web-search for Suboxone Addiction.  I am making a post about this question because it is a common one that I get asked here and I believe it is more of a problem than we know about– and the main reason I started this website was to help others with this problem.

I will post quotes from the full blog post titled 3 Month Suboxone Addiction – Help to Quit found here.

This post also discusses the authors real-world taper off of Suboxone using a very gradual taper which is illustrated using the self-made Taper Charting Tool

Have Been Addicted to Roxycodone For Almost 2 Years

I have been an addict to Roxycodone for almost 2 years, I have attempted to quit multiple times using the cold turkey method first, which helped me mentally and physically because it gave me a new aspect on life. However, I only stayed clean for maybe a month and slipped back in the hole.

This is a common start to the story, an addiction to a powerful opiate like Ocycodone and then getting some form of help which leads to Suboxone Treatment for Opiate Addiction.

Used Suboxone for Opioid Addiction thinking it is Safer and/or Better

After some talk with my friends, they persuade me to not use Methadone because there is a great chance of becoming addicted, so instead they told me Suboxone would never get me addicted because it never gets you high.

Again, this is so common and I think so far the original poster is taking the right path.  I think Suboxone Treatment saves a lot of lives and helps people break free from the strong opiate (oxycodone, etc.) addiction that destroys lives but in my humble opinion it leads to people dependent on Suboxone or who find it very hard to break free from the Suboxone.

Failed Quitting Suboxone – Tried Quitting Suboxone Unsuccessfully

The first few times trying to quit off Suboxone I failed but eventually this last time I successfully quit the “blues”. I took the suggested dose of suboxone 2mg 2x a day and was doing fine, with mild w/d effects. Every once in a while I would do an extra 2mg when I would get depressed or start craving the “blues”…

There are so many variations to this persons; story but the basic story is the same, the person broke free from the Oxycodone stronghold but is now dealing with a less-destructive but equally as challenging problem.  Quitting Suboxone is very difficult and not many doctors admit this up front– I’m convinced that many doctors don’t believe it much like psychiatrist didn’t believe in SSRI withdrawal.  It took years before psychiatrists’ and drug manufactures (and FDA) believed in SSRI withdrawal or SSRI discontinuation syndrome but now it is widely accepted.

Suboxone is Very Strong Medicine – Much Stronger Than Doctors Seem To Believe

My theory is that doctors do not realize how strong Suboxone is and they underestimate how a 2mg dose can cause an addiction.  I recall certain doctors saying that anyone noticing withdrawal from a 1mg Suboxone dose is not really experiencing withdrawal and it is “all in their mind”.

First of all – isn’t withdrawal always “in our mind”?  That is a rhetorical question.

Want To Quit Suboxone But Cannot

The last part of the post that I’ll talk about is the part where the original poster talk about how they believe it is time to quit and they feel that being on Suboxone is not being “really clean”.

This is a hotly debatable topic, are you really clean when on Suboxone or not?

I used to say “Yes” but am leaning more towards “No’ after a few years experience and/or exposure to the medication through myself or friends.  I think an addict should be proud of breaking free of Oxycodones’ and getting on a Suboxone treatment plan by a Suboxone doctor but I also think that the addict needs to remember they are still dependent.

I have noticed recently I have been seeing signs of addiction towards the Suboxone; things such as getting depressed, feeling tired all the time unless I do another dose of suboxone, and craving doses a lot. I think it is time to give up Suboxone and getting completely clean. I am a student in College and am holding a job, and I have made it this far without being clean because I don’t ever have the time to quit and deal with w/d.

The original poster said their dose was currently at 8mg daily, which in my opinion is pretty high, much higher than probably needed but I am not a doctor and everyone is different.  I personally feel that any addict after they have gone a month without Oxycodones can wean down to 4mg daily without much physical discomfort.

I also believe it is not that difficult to wean down to 1mg Suboxone daily over a period of a month, even from an Oxycodone addiction from as much as 120 – 240mg daily.

My personal experience is that you need a front-loaded dose of Suboxone, something in the neighborhood of 8mg – 24mg daily for a few days and can then taper down to 8mg daily for the first week after.  Depending on how strong of an addiction you came from it shouldn’t be hard to taper to 1mg of Suboxone daily within 30 days.

Tapering To 1mg Suboxone Daily is Not That Hard

I have found that going below 1mg of Suboxone the point where things start becoming challenging. But again this information is being provided for entertainment purposes only and all dose amounts should be provided by your doctor and followed exactly.

The original poster also said:

My daily routine:

– I wake up and immediately insufflate 2mg, I go to my job or school and last 4-5 hours later when I insufflate another 2mg, then in 3 hours I insufflate another 2mg. Recently, I insufflate another 2mg in another 2 hours.

I have to say that this is a bad idea.  You should not snort Suboxone for one it is not an efficient means of treatment and wastes the medication not to mention you don’t know what the side-effects are from taking medication that way.  There is no recreational value to snorting Suboxone, generally speaking from what I have seen.  There is little to no recreational value in Suboxone period from what I’ve seen and experienced.

How To Quit Suboxone For Good – Long, Slow, Gradual Tapering

I believe that tapering from any addictive medication is the way to go IF you can do it. Tapering from a highly addictive substance like Oxycodone is nearly impossible because it is so addictive and because it has such a short half-life.

Half-life basically means the number of hours before one half the useful part of the medication is removed from your body. Oxycodone has a very short half life in the neighborhood of six hours so if you rail 30mg of Oxycodone at noon half that is gone by 6pm and nearly all of it gone within 24 hours.

Suboxone Has a Very Long Half Life

Suboxone has a super long half-life compared to Oxycodone, approximately 37 hours and it is different for everyone, could be as high as 60 hours in some people on other medications with over-worked liver.  The difference between a medication having a 6 hour half-life and a 37 hour half-life is night-and-day.

Suboxone Half-Life Night-and-Day Difference Compared to Oxycodone

You can check out the Half-Life Elimination Charting Tool on this site to experiment with how long medications stay in your system based on half-life.  The tool was developed by a programmer and is for entertainment purposes only but it will give you an idea of the differences between a 6 vs 37 hour half-life medicine.

The tool works for any medicine that has a linear half-life as long as you use the same unit of measure for example use dose in milligrams, grams, micro-grams,  oz, etc., it doesn’t matter as long as the dose is numeric and consistent.  If you took 1.2 grams of a medicine one day and 200mg the next day just enter 1,200 milligrams and then 200mg using the common denominator of “milligrams”.

Suboxone Half-Life Elimination Tool – Suboxone Tapering Tool

** For educational purposes only I am not a doctor – I am a computer programmer who used basic half-life elimination formulas to develop the tool.

If you open the tool, you will need to have Microsoft Silverlight on your computer.  You may already have Silverlight, but if not you will be prompted to install it.  You can run the tool on non-Microsoft computers such as Mac or Linux.


The Real Secret To Quitting Suboxone

I think that a very long, shallow taper is the way to get off Suboxone with little or no discomfort.  When I say long, I am thinking of at least one month to go from 1mg daily to nothing.  Getting to 1mg daily of Suboxone is a walk-in-the-park but going below 1mg starts becoming challenging and I would never wish anyone go “cold-turkey” from any dose of Suboxone heaven forbid 8mg daily.  I an not a doctor and you need to get all dosing information from your doctor. This information is being provided as an opinion and possibly something you can suggest to your doctor and ask your doctor if it is something they are willing to allow you to do.

My Personal Taper From Suboxone

First three days 24mg Suboxone, then three days at 16mg, then two days at 12mg to finish out the first week.  After getting past the first week you have bypassed the hardest days of opiate withdrawal.  From then on a moderate taper down to 4mg Suboxone daily.  I then took another TWO full months to taper from 4mg to zero taking the last month to go from 1mg to zero by cutting Suboxone strips into very thin tiny (almost as small as a pin head) that when you put under your tongue you barely taste the “orange” stuff.

Getting to 1mg isn’t really so tough and if you take it slow enough you will be able to quit.  This was my personal experience and should not be used by anyone without approval and guidance from your doctor!!

Notice this first month chart, how it loads heavy at first to curb the hard part of opiate withdrawal and ramps down fast to a lower dose.  You would be surprised how STRONG 4mg of Suboxone is once you break the Oxys.  In fact 2mg Suboxone can kill some pretty bad withdrawal if you give it a few hours time (patience!!!) and let yourself experience a little discomfort.

Good luck!!

Planning a Drug Taper

The Tool for creating this graph was made by a programmer (me) and only does a month at a time for now but I will update it to do more as soon as I get time. :)


View larger image HERE or open the Suboxone Taper Charting Tool HERE

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Aug 06

Morphine Addiction Treatment – Buprenorphine Naloxone (Suboxone or Subutex) vs Methadone

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Quitting Opiates – Which works better Suboxone or Methadone

There is no silver-bullet answer to this question, but in my experience buprenorphine naloxone (aka Suboxone) is a better choice because I think it works better and it is easier to quit once you reach that point.  Quitting Suboxone or Methadone can be a challenge, but I think Suboxone is just a little easier.

There are some variables involved that will probably be considered, price of course is always on the list unless you are made of money.  Then you have to ask the question, does the drug do what is promised, will it help you quit abusing opiates and get you off opiates ultimately with the least amount of pain possible.  The third factor I would consider is how easy is it to quit taking the medication once you are ready, because you are trading one opiate for another with either choice.

Summary – There are basically two choices of approved drugs for opiate addiction

  • Buprenorphine Naloxone (aka Suboxone, Subutex)
  • Methadone


Summary – How to decide between Suboxone or Methadone


  1. Cost of Suboxone or Methadone Treatment Plans
  2. Effectiveness of the drug in getting you off of opiates and keeping you off them.
  3. Ability to quit the drug without major problems or withdrawal symptoms.

Suboxone Strips

Suboxone (aka Buprenorphine Naloxone) Treatment Plan Typical Prices

First Month Costs

Initial Doctor Visit or Evaluation Visit – Around $300

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $200 first month

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming one and a half 8mg Suboxones’ daily (45 pills * $10) – $450 first month.  You will probably start at two or three 8mg Suboxones the first few days and rapidly drop to one 8mg daily and possibly 1/2 of an 8mg Suboxone by the end of the month.  4mg of Suboxone is still a very potent dose.

Second Month Costs

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $100 second month.  Many doctors will allow you to visit less frequently after you build some trust in the relationship.

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming 1/2 of an 8mg Suboxone daily (15 pills * $10) – $150 second month

Third Month Costs

Regular Visits for counseling and script refills average around fifty bucks weekly –  $100 third month.  Many doctors will allow you to visit less frequently after you build some trust in the relationship.

Cost of Suboxone medication per month, assuming average of 1/8th of an 8mg Suboxone daily, plus a few extra pills to cut as small as possible for tapering (use two pills for an entire month period!  (10 pills * $10) - $100 third month

Total Cost of Suboxone Treatment over a three to four month period:  $1,400.  This sounds like a crazy high number, and it is expensive if you don’t have insurance coverage, but it is a low price to pay compared to the alternative.  I don’t know about you but I know of many people who were at a two hundred dollar per day habit so the Suboxone was actually cheaper than the daily routine.


Effectiveness of Suboxone

Buprenorphine is a relatively new drug for treating opiate addiction, such as oxycodone addiction or even heroin addiction.  Suboxone has become very popular in the US, quite simply because it works for most people, and the numbers are slightly better than Methadone for number of addicts who remain clean after a period of months after treatment.

From personal experiences I can say that it works because I’ve seen friends go through the treatment with good success.


Ability to Taper off of Suboxone after the treatment

This is probably one of the weak points for Suboxone, but it is no cakewalk for Methadone either.  You are trading one opiate for another, so you are technically not “clean” until you kick the Suboxone habit, and that is not as easy as it might seem.  But don’t let that deter you from improving your life, or possibly saving it!


Methdone Costs, Effectiveness and Ability to Taper off

I have not seen person experiences or talked to people who have, so do not have this information in as much detail.  The costs are similar to Suboxone for treatment however the Methadone drug itself is very low cost.  Methadone has a longer half life so technically you would think it will be easier to wean off of, but I have heard of many addicts that are on methadone for life.

I am definitely biased towards the Suboxone but I recommend you try to find more detailed info on Methadone first.

If you are looking for a medication for Heroin addiction treatment, Morphine Addiction Treatment, or Hydrocodone Addiction Treatment, then learn about buprenorphine naloxone and methadone  as much as possible before making a decision.

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Aug 03

Legal Uses of Buprenorphine for pain (Buprenex®) and opioid addiction

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Legal Uses of Buprenorphine (Buprenex®) & (Suboxone® and Subutex®).

(based on DEA Narcotic Addict Treatment Act effective 2006)

  • Treatment of pain under the trade name of (Buprenex®)
  • Treatment of opioid addiction under the trade names (Suboxone® and Subutex®).


Prescriptions Dispensed for Buprenorphine in the US

In 2009, there were 5,080,000 prescriptions for buprenorphine dispensed.

In 2010 (up to September) there were 4,600,000 buprenorphine prescriptions dispensed which is on a pace to reach 5,750,000 prescriptions dispensed by the end of 2010.


69 Tons of Pure Oxycodone & 42 Tons of pure hydrocodone were dispensed the US in 2010

Nationwide, pharmacies received and ultimately dispensed the equivalent of 69 tons of pure oxycodone and 42 tons of pure hydrocodone in 2010, the last year for which statistics are available. That’s enough to give 40 5-mg Percocets and 24 5-mg Vicodins to every person in United States

How many pills that equates to for every single person in the Unites States for a year?  

  • 40 Percocets
  • 24 Vicodins

Parts of New Mexico have seen tenfold increases in oxycodone sales per capita and fivefold increases in hydrocodone. The state had the highest rate of opioid painkiller overdoses in 2008, with 27 per 100,000 population.  The increases have coincided with a wave of overdose deaths, pharmacy robberies and other problems in Nevada, Utah, Florida and other states. Opioid pain relievers, the category that includes oxycodone and hydrocodone, caused 14,800 overdose deaths in 2008 alone, and the death toll is rising, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.

2001 Narcotic Addict Treatment Act Amendment

Amended to allow qualified physicians, under certification of the DHHS, to prescribe schedule III-V narcotic drugs (FDA approved for the indication of narcotic treatment) for narcotic addiction, up to 30 patients per physician at any time, outside the context of clinic-based narcotic treatment programs.

2005  Narcotic Addict Treatment Act Amendment

The patient limit was increased to 100 patients per physician, for physicians who meet the specified criteria, under the Office of National Drug Control Policy Re-authorization Act.

2006   National Drug Control Policy Re-authorization Act

The patient limit was increased to 100 patients per physician, for physicians who meet the specified criteria, under the Office of National Drug Control Policy Re-authorization Act.



Suboxone® and Subutex® are the only treatment drugs that meet the requirement of this exemption. Currently, there are nearly 15,700 physicians who have been approved by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) and the DEA for office-based narcotic buprenorphine treatment.

Of those physicians, approximately 13,150 were approved to treat up to 30 patients per provider and about 2,500 were approved to treat up to 100 patients.

More than 3,000 physicians have submitted their intention to treat up to 100 patients per provider. IMS Health National Prescription Audit Plus data indicate that 5.08 million buprenorphine prescriptions were dispensed in the US in 2009.


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Jul 21

Taper 101 for Addictive Opioids like Buprenorphine Naloxone

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Tapering 101 – Addictive Pain Killers and Opiates

  • Heroin
  • Demerol
  • Methadone
  • Morphine
  • Hydrocodone
  • Oxycodone
  • Suoxone
  • Dilaudid
  • Vicodin
  • Percocet


 Suboxone Taper

Factors that affect the Taper From Addictive Opiates (Opiate, Methadone, Morphine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Suoxone and Dilaudid)

  • how long you’ve been on the med
  • what dose you’re on
  • your age
  • what other meds you’re taking
  • your general health.


Opiate Tapering using Gradual Dose Reduction (aka Tapering)

The purpose of tapering a medication is to find an optimal dose or to determine whether continued use of the medication is needed.  A taper of an addictive opiate such as (Opiate, Methadone, Morphine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Suboxone, and Dilaudid) may be made much more comfortable using tapering.  You can use the Buprenorphine Naloxone & Suboxone Tapering Tool on this site to plan your own personal taper.

Buprenorphine Taper

The Buprenorphine Naloxone & Suboxone Tapering Tool

Cold Turkey – Stopping Suboxone or Opioid Medications

What to do if your doctor says you can stop pain killers cold-turkey?

Question: I’ve been on Suboxone. My doctor has now said I can stop taking the medication. I’ve heard from others that you should not stop taking this medication cold turkey but should wean from

it using a gradual reduction in dose over time. The doctor said I should be fine that 4mg daily is not that much to stop. Should I just stop or taper on my own?
—Carlos, Sanford, Florida
ANSWER: Opioid medicines have common and easily seen withdrawal symptoms and some have rebound effects. Overall, pain killers can be tapered without problem but when your physician says you can stop them, most likely, you don’t need to worry about tapering off. (Ask questions if you’re not sure.)

Some other medications, such as antidepressants and blood-pressure meds, do need a tapering schedule. Sometimes docs will taper them over a short timeframe like 2 weeks or sometimes over a long period such as a year.  It depends on how long you’ve been taking them and what dose.


What can happen if you stop taking certain opioids (pain-killers) cold-turkey?

For opioids such as (Opiate, Methadone, Morphine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Suoxone and Dilaudid):

  • high blood pressure
  • rapid heart rate
  • seizures
  • anxiety


When stopping medications, a taking your time may save your life, health and minimize withdrawal symptoms.
A really nice drug tapering tool that can be used for just about any medication including opioids (Opiate, Methadone, Morphine, Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Suoxone and Dilaudid)

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Jun 26

Opioid Withdrawal – War Stories (Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Morphine, Heroin, Suboxone)

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My Opioid War Story


Something is wrong… something is damn wrong… fix it now

If you have been addicted to any opioid then you are well aware that quitting an opioid is much more difficult than anyone else knows.  They refer to the time they quit smoking, or they time they stopped drinking soda and think that quitting opioids is some decision that you can just make and do it.

I would never wish the pain of withdrawal on any of my friends, but I can’t deny there have been times I wish that they could experience the feeling of being without opioids for just one hour and then let them tell me how easy it will be.

We have suffered through the many sleepless nights where our our body spasms unexpectedly like some sort of a seizure.  Some people say their arm twitches, some people experience severe restless legs but everyone experiences some soft of visible twitching body movement where your brain is telling your body that something is wrong, something is damn wrong, fix it now!   We are the ones that can share war stories about quitting opioids and the withdrawal that kept is in the bed (or hospital) for a week, and we’d watch the clock for what felt like eternity.  The opioid withdrawal made minutes feel like hours, and hours like days.

The worst withdrawal symptoms for me:

  • Pain – full body pain
  • Severe Anxiety and Restlessness
  • Nausea and Vomiting, Gut wrenching feeling
  • Cold and Hot spells
  • Inability to sleep
  • More pain and leg kicking
  • GI Joe Squirts (late stages of withdrawal)
  • Runny Nose (early stages of withdrawal)


What physical thing do you remember while suffering through opioid withdrawal?

My opioid withdrawal happened several years ago and other than the feelings that I felt there is one thing I have a very detailed image of in my mind.  The clock that was hanging near the bed I was laying in as I suffered through opioid withdrawal.  I can remember every detail about the clock on the wall as I suffer through days of opioid withdrawal.  The big round clock made of plastic and colored like aged brass.  It had a tan background and roman numerals and the hour hand had a strange pointer almost like the devils pitchfork.

Quitting Suboxone - The Clock

I have visions of that clock burned into my mind at various time through out the day and when the hour hand had moved from four to six I recall wondering if I was going to make it and if the opioid withdrawal would ever end.  The pain did end, and going through the pain was worth it, but the pain never ends for an addict in my mind.  There is a different pain once you are sober called boredom but that is for another day.

So let me know about your war story.


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Jun 24

Trick to Quitting Suboxone (buprenorphine & naloxone) or other Opioids

The Trick to Quitting  Buprenorphine Naloxone with Minimial Withdrawal Symptoms


Withdrawal from Buprenorphine Naloxone or other Opioids

Quitting opioids really sucks, for lack of better words.  I’ll never forget the many sleepless nights spent kicking my legs because they hurt so bad.  I’ll never forget the opioid withdrawal symptoms where my body would change from hot to cold in a flash, literally.  One minute I’d have ten blankets on and be shivering and the next I’d be sweating profusely.  And the clock watching I’ve mentioned in other articles… that is something I’ll remember to the day I die as minutes went by they felt like hours.  I’ve got another article called war stories of quitting opioids where I describe my “war story” in more detail.


The Trick to Quitting  Buprenorphine Naloxone  (Suboxone)

As I promised, there really is a way to quit  Buprenorphine Naloxone (Suboxone) that involves very little withdrawal pain, and I suspect you can handle some pretty intense withdrawal pain if you are here unless you had an unlimited supply of money and drugs and somehow remained alive.  I used the word “TRICK” on purpose because in a way this is some sort of trick or decption that we play on our mind.


(deception n)     (d-spshn)

1. the act of deceiving or the state of being deceived
2. something that deceives; trick

[Middle English decepcioun, from Old French deception, from Late Latin dcepti, dceptin-, from Latin dceptus, past participle of dcipereto deceive; see deceive.]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


Yes you are going to deceive your body, play a trick on it by weaning it off of opioids  to taper off of the drug so slowly that your body doesn’t notice it.

Image of a child pacifier - Weaning Off Buprenorphine Naloxone (Suboxone)

The Pacifier

This may sound crazy but it really works, it reminds me of a similar method of deception that I played on my daughter when she was a child.  As a parent we used a pacifier to keep our daughter satisfied when we were too busy to do it ourselves, it sounds evil but it is quite common and not really mean at all. If you don’t know what a pacifier is… well a plastic rubbery sucking thing that a baby sucks on to “pacify” themselves and deceives them into thinking they are sucking on a bottle of milk or the mothers breast.


, The baby becomes emotionally attached to them especially if you use them too often, and when the baby starts to grow older it can become a challenge to make the baby stop using the pacifier without driving you crazy by crying too much.

So, I got creative and decided to try something other than cold-turkey and just taking the pacifier away.  I took out the scissors and cut a very small portion of the tip off of the pacifier and gave it to my daughter… as I expected she took to it like an addict would take to a couple crushed Oxycodone 30 and a straw.  Bingo! I thought this just might work, but the key was going slow I made the mistake of cutting off too much a few days later and my daughter made a funny face, spit out the pacifier and started crying.


So each day, I would cut a sliver of the pacifier off and there would be no problems.  As the days went on the pacifier would start to fall out of my daughters mouth but it was gradual so she got used to picking it back up and putting it in her mouth, or she would hold it with her hand.  This is the way to quit Suboxone or any other addictive substance, by tricking your body very slowly and gradually.  Several weeks had gone by and the pacifier was cut so small that my daughter had to hold it to keep it in her mouth and we found that she didn’t cry for it very much at all.  Eventually she stopped using it because it wasn’t worth the effort of holding that nub of a pacifier in her mouth!

The Tapering Plan – Plotting your Taper from Buprenorphine Naloxone

The tapering strategy will work for any opioid, from Oxycodone and Hydrocodone to Morphine, Methadone, Heroin & Hydromorphone.  The reason you don’t hear of many success stories of persons tapering from Oxycodone is because it has too short of a half-life, meaning that the time it takes for the drug to be eliminated from your blood stream is short.  Buprenorphine Naloxone is an extremely long lasting opioid with a mean half-life of 37 hours.  The speed at which you taper is different for everyone.

Tapering off of any drug should always be planned and completed under supervision of a doctor.  I will be writing about this subject soon, and will go into detail about the actual tapering plan.  You can use my Suboxone Taper Charting tool to plot a taper plan off of any drug!


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